Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news.arc.nasa.gov!dftsrv!mimsy!uunet.UU.NET From: decwrl!well.sf.ca.us!well!tmi@uunet.UU.NET (Peter Kasler) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: Glock 21 (.45 caliber) Message-ID: <35840@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 20 Jun 91 14:39:43 GMT Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu Lines: 30 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu decwrl!well.sf.ca.us!well!rsl@uunet.UU.NET (Roy Stuart Levin) writes: #Peter, how does the recoil and controlability compare with other Glocks in #9mm and .40SW? How does it compare with other lightweight .45acps like #the Commander or Colt Officer's model? Any thoughts? Felt recoil and controlability of .45 ACP Glock Model 21 compares to Models 17 & 19 (9mmP) favorably, as it does even more so to Models 22 & 23 (.40 S&W) and Model 20 (10mm). I've only fired the Models 20 & 21 a couple of magazines each in prototype form, but next week will have an opportunity to do extensive research with a production Model 21, and possibly the same with a production Model 20. Essentially, the .45 ACP cartridge is milder and more controllable than the 9mmP cartridge. That fact, coupled with the Model 21's larger grip size seems to significantly reduce felt recoil. As to what the increased grip size does to controllability, that's a matter of what individual shooters think about the larger grips. If one comes to the pistol predisposed that larger grips will be more difficult to deal with, it's likely to be a self- fulfilling prophecy. On the other hand, if one gets proper instruction or knows that a different grip doesn't mean difficulty, only difference, and one knows or learns how to correctly deal with such things, there should be no diminution of control. The same concepts should apply as to the Models 22 & 23 guns with the proviso that the .40 S&W cartridge tends to be more harsh in recoil but no less controllable than the 9mmP. The standard 10mm cartridge is even a bit more so than the .40, but the 10mm FBI "Lite" load is about equal to the .40 S&W in those respects.