Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jpl-devvax!ddc From: ddc@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Douglas Creel) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: Fred's Operatic Death Message-ID: <1991Jun17.220233.19135@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 17 Jun 91 22:02:33 GMT References: <1991Jun7.215211.22450@sequent.com> <1991Jun14.083756.1@vf.jsc.nasa.gov> <1991Jun17.055344.8332@sequent.com> Reply-To: ddc@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV (Douglas Creel) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 29 > >The fact that your employer, JSC, gets its revenues via the IRS >for astronaut projects makes me discount your "pro-manned" >statements. Quit wasting my tax money making self-serving posts to the >net. Quit wasting my money on engineer-welfare projects like Fred. Get a >real job. > > >-- >Nick Szabo szabo@sequent.com You sound like a desperately lonely person, Nick. I suggest you seek some professional counseling for this hostility problem of yours. As far as someone's postings being a waste of your tax paying dollars, well, Nick, you're not the only one who pays taxes on this net. Maybe we should clarify exactly what it is you consider an "engineer-welfare" project. What about me? I work for the Mars Observer project which is decidedly unmanned and would seem to fall under the auspices of one of your pet projects. Is this welfare for engineers and space scientists? I can't recall of ever hearing of welfare recipients who work for their living. What about all the scientists who work for NASA, or NOAA, or the NSF, or NIMH, or any one of the national labs. Are we all just a bunch of self-serving welfare recipients, be that self-serving "astronaut-groupies" or self-serving "science-weenies"? Please enlighten me Nick, so that this veil of ignorance which seems to surround all of us who consider the men and women who died on Challenger heroes and not misguided martyrs can be lifted. Douglas D. Creel Mars Observer Navigation Team Jet Propulsion Laboratory