Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!olivea!decwrl!mcnc!duke!neuro!tbd From: tbd@neuro (Tristan Davies) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Auditory Impulse Travel and Distance Summary: what a marvelous thing is the brain!... Message-ID: <22420@duke.cs.duke.edu> Date: 21 Jun 91 13:54:13 GMT References: <9106171949.AA20716@genbank.bio.net> <1991Jun18.033141.11511@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@duke.cs.duke.edu Reply-To: tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies) Followup-To: bionet.neurosciences Distribution: bionet Organization: Dept. of Neurobiology, Duke University Medical Center Lines: 52 Nntp-Posting-Host: neuro.neuro.duke.edu >>More simply put, do louder sounds travel further along >>auditory pathways than sounds which are more quiet? > >Any sound which we perceive, whether loud or soft, must travel into the >auditory cortex, hence all the way along the pathway. The intensity of the >sound doesn't affect whether the signal is propagated. If it is transduced >at the cochlea, it will be transmitted. Some neurons are level dependent, Absolutely correct!! >i.e. their discharge probability is a function of input intensity, but many >are not. These will convey the signal (almost) independent of its intensity. > > >bruce >(brp@bandit.berkeley.edu) Thank you for the simplest, most elegant answer. I have an additional fact which y'all might find interesting. The range of sensitivity of an auditory neuron is measured by a *tuning curve*, which is a graph of sound frequency (x axis) vs. intensity to cause firing (i.e., threshold) (y-axis). When recording the activity of single auditory neurons, physiologists find that most neurons have a tuning curve which is roughly V-shaped, indicating that the neuron has the lowest threshold at a single frequency and its ability to respond to a pure tone decreases as the frequency of that tone is farther from the preferred frequency of the neuron. Get it? Here's the neat thing: some neurons have **circular tuning curves**! That is, they respond only to a narrow range of both frequency and intensity. While some neurons prefer loder noises, there are also neurons that prefer soft sounds, and will not fire in response to a loud sound, even if that sound is at the preferred frequency. Thus the loudness of a sound is probably encoded in *which* neurons fire more than the rate at which they fire. BTW, I have encountered a couple of these neurons during a lab rotation where I recorded from the inferior colliculus in bats, so I'm fairly certain they exist... Hope this helps! Tristan Davies Dept. of Neurobiology, Duke Univ. Go Blue Devils!!! e-mail: tbd@neuro.duke.edu "The brain is truly an impressive organ. It starts working the instant we get up in the morning and doesn't stop working until we get to the office." --paraphrased from an unknown source