Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!olivea!uunet!mcsun!ukc!warwick!nott-cs!ucl-cs!news From: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: RE: IF IT DOES NOT PASS TT IT IS NOT INTELLIGENT???? Message-ID: <1657@ucl-cs.uucp> Date: 22 Jun 91 17:00:24 GMT Sender: news@cs.ucl.ac.uk Lines: 28 Stephen Smoliar writes, on the subject of Turing's orignal paper, > Unless I am mistaken, > Turing uses his opening paragraphs to argue that it is a waste of time > to consider a question as naive as "Can a machine think?" Perhaps some should tell John Searle. One of his lectures in "Minds, brains and science : the 1984 Reith lectures" is just that: "Can a machine think?" > Therefore, > in the interest of being more productive, he introduces his "Imitation > Game" as a more realistic arena for investigation. In other words he > replaces the intelligence question with that of whether or not a machine > could play the Imitation Game well enough that the other player would not > recognize it as a machine. He then devotes the rest of the paper to arguing > why it is feasible that this would eventually be the case. I think I am missing something. If it a box could "walk, talk and chew gum", how different would it appear if it could only "imitate" said behaviour? ____ Gordon Joly +44 71 387 7050 ext 3716 Internet: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk UUCP: ...!{uunet,ukc}!ucl-cs!G.Joly Computer Science, University College London, Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT Order is paramount in anarchy.