Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!mips!sdd.hp.com!caen!ox.com!msen.com!emv From: urban%hercules@RAND.ORG (Michael Urban) Newsgroups: comp.archives Subject: [soc.culture.esperanto] Re: Volapu"k Message-ID: <1991Jun24.043414.16554@ox.com> Date: 24 Jun 91 04:34:14 GMT References: <1991Jun20.195858.26872@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Sender: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN) Reply-To: urban%hercules@RAND.ORG (Michael Urban) Followup-To: soc.culture.esperanto Organization: The Internet Lines: 30 Approved: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN) X-Original-Date: 20 Jun 91 21:29:46 GMT X-Original-Newsgroups: soc.culture.esperanto Archive-name: culture/esperanto/vega-languages/1991-06-20 Archive: rand.org:/pub/esperanto/other-tongues/languages.shar [192.5.14.33] Original-posting-by: urban%hercules@RAND.ORG (Michael Urban) Original-subject: Re: Volapu"k Reposted-by: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN) Around the beginning of the year, Nick Nicholas and others produced translations of Suzanne Vega's song `Language' into a half dozen planned languages, including no fewer than two Volapuk translations. I believe that you can get these from the Planned Languages server, and you can FTP a TeX version from rand.org from the shell archive file pub/esperanto/other-tongues/languages.shar. One of the criticisms sometimes leveled at Esperanto is that it sometimes twists its source words beyond recognition. Volapuk was a past master at this. The name Volap"uk is derived from two ENGLISH words, `world-speak', vilely murdered and dragged from the grave in horribly mutated form. I will withhold comment on root-creation in Lojban and Loglan... Mike -- MSEN Archive Service file verification rand.org -rw-r--r-- 1 145 10 28546 Jun 20 13:20 /pub/esperanto/other-tongues/languages.shar found vega-languages ok rand.org:/pub/esperanto/other-tongues/languages.shar