Path: utzoo!telecom-request Date: Tue, 25 Jun 91 05:07:45 PDT From: "John R. Covert 25-Jun-1991 0737" Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Two Cellular Phones With the Same ESN (was Dumb Question) Message-ID: Organization: TELECOM Digest Sender: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 490, Message 3 of 9 Lines: 50 Bob Lancelot at Motorola writes: > I gave the CELLUSOFT SYSTEMS number a call this morning regarding > two cellular phones with the same ESN. > Talked with Mr. Hoser (sp?). For $300 + $35 s&h he'll send you a > device that allows you to program an ESN (specifically yours from > another phone that you own) into a Novatel phone. Yikes! From EIA/TIA-553, the standard that defines the AMPS protocol and devices (and to which all manufacturers, service providers, repair technicians, and cellular phone operators must comply or risk a visit from the FCC): 2.3 Security and Identification 2.3.2. Serial Number The serial number is a 32-bit binary number that uniquely identifies a mobile station to any cellular system. It must be factory-set and not readily alterable in the field. The circuitry that provides the serial number must be isolated from fraudulent contact and tampering. Attempts to change the serial number circuitry should render the mobile station inoperative. I'm really surprised that an employee of Motorola's Cellular Division would publish information that would help people modify their electronic serial numbers. Supposedly the device sold by these guys will only make the number the same as the number in some other phone that you own, but even this is a violation of the standard -- and who is going to make sure that dealers who market the device are going to be honest. It is specifically the fact that there are phones which apparently don't break permanently when you try to do this and that there are dealers out there selling devices to take advantage of poor phone design that PREVENT ME FROM BEING ABLE TO DIRECT DIAL LONG DISTANCE CALLS WHEN TRAVELLING. Yes, I'm shouting, because I'm angry. If you were to use this device, and were to accidentally leave both phones powered on, believe me, your cellular carrier will be interested in talking to you about why you are operating equipment in violation of approved standards. john