Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!neon.Stanford.EDU!pescadero.Stanford.EDU!philip From: philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: c++ vs ada results Message-ID: <1991Jun25.174625.23341@neon.Stanford.EDU> Date: 25 Jun 91 17:46:25 GMT Article-I.D.: neon.1991Jun25.174625.23341 References: <1991Jun12.201740.16463@netcom.COM> <1991Jun16.041037.11606@kithrup.COM> <1991Jun24.201111.13742@netcom.COM> <1991Jun25.112956.1@sdl.mdcbbs.com> Sender: news@neon.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System) Reply-To: philip@pescadero.stanford.edu Organization: Stanford University Lines: 30 In article <1991Jun25.112956.1@sdl.mdcbbs.com>, alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com writes: |> (I am aware many Pascal compilers do support modules - I hadn't heard there |> was any standard for these extensions - if there is I retract the last |> statement.) The UCSD extension to Pascal introduced a Unit feature, which is close to a "standard" on Mac and PC Pascals. A few years back, I saw a proposed ISO (I think?) extension to the existing standard which would have added modules, but with completely different syntax. It seems some people out there still don't think PCs and Macs are real computers, despite the fact that installed units must be in the 10s of millions by now, and the high end versions of these things can run bigger programs than mainframes could a few years ago. (And run into equivalent project management problems - if not worse, because designing for the mass market must be harder than doing it for a specific customer.) Pascal is gradually being superseded on the Mac by C++, since this is the way Apple is going, and no doubt the application developers will have to follow to avoid interface problems. There is a huge number of PC / Mac programmers who have grown up on compilers like Turbo Pascal (PC) and Think Pascal (Mac). I wonder if these people outnumber FORTRAN and COBOL programmers on mainframes. (I would be interested if anyone has figures for this.) So much for the COBOL/Fortran to Ada learning curve. What of the Pascal to C++ learning curve? -- Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu