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From: sjg@melb.bull.oz.au (Simon J. Gerraty)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: sendmail 5.65+IDA, e-mail privacy.
Summary: Postmater receives whole text of bounced messages.
Message-ID: <1991Jun21.060835.904@melb.bull.oz.au>
Date: 21 Jun 91 06:08:35 GMT
Sender: news@melb.bull.oz.au (USENET News Account)
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Australia.
Lines: 78
Nntp-Posting-Host: sun0

I have recently installed sendmail-5.65+IDA on our Sun's and
Bull DPX/2 systems here.  We have now noticed that Postmaster
receives the body of messages being returned to sender.

With the P option set (ie. OPPostmaster in sendmail.cf)
Both the user and the Postmaster receive.

>Return-Path: <Mailer-Daemon>
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:46:07 +1000
>From: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
>Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
>To: sjg
>Cc: Postmaster
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>550 fred.nerk@sun0... User unknown
>
>   ----- Unsent message follows -----
>Return-Path: <sjg>
>Received: by sun0.melb.bull.oz.au (5.65+/Bull-1.1) 
>	id AA08893; Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:46:07 +1000
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:46:07 +1000
>From: sjg (Simon J. Gerraty)
>Message-Id: <9106210446.AA08893@sun0.melb.bull.oz.au>
>To: fred.nerk@sun0
>Subject: this is a test
>
>Ok guys what do we see?

Without the P option set Postmaster gets nothing.

When using Sun's sendmail Postmaster would
only have received:

>Return-Path: <Mailer-Daemon>
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:46:07 +1000
>From: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
>Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
>To: sjg
>Cc: Postmaster
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>550 fred.nerk@sun0... User unknown
>
>   ----- Message header follows -----
>Return-Path: <sjg>
>Received: by sun0.melb.bull.oz.au (5.65+/Bull-1.1) 
>	id AA08893; Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:46:07 +1000
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 14:46:07 +1000
>From: sjg (Simon J. Gerraty)
>Message-Id: <9106210446.AA08893@sun0.melb.bull.oz.au>
>To: fred.nerk@sun0
>Subject: this is a test

Even though the originator received the body as well. We much
prefer this arrangement.

I have had a look at savemail.c etc and can't see that the
behaviour we would like is catered for.

It seems to me that the ``Cc'' to Postmaster would have to be
handled as a separate message so that only the headers be
included.   Or that something other than sendall() would need to
be called from returntosender().

Before I go doing any useless hacking... I'd love to hear if
someone already has some patches, or better yet, that I have
missed something simple...  (yes I have read the op.me and
related documents again :-)

Please e-mail as I'll be off-site for a couple of weeks and
probably won't get a chance to read news.

-- 
Simon J. Gerraty        <sjg@sun0.melb.bull.oz.au>      (work)
                        <sjg@zen.void.oz.au>            (home)

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