Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!NUSVM.BITNET!ISSSSM From: ISSSSM@NUSVM.BITNET (Stephen Smoliar) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: RE: WHY NO ONE CARES WHAT S. PAGE DOES Message-ID: <9106260038.AA13566@lilac.berkeley.edu> Date: 26 Jun 91 00:39:12 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 46 X-Unparsable-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 91 08:37:18 SST In article <1991Jun25.044117.8155@rand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes: > >Any theory of music which focuses on pitch and duration, to the exclusion >of other factors, is nothing but a form of numerology. In fact, even >more inclusive theories of music fall far short if they ignore the >effect of music upon the mental state of the listener or practitioner. >The goal of music is, after all, to produce things to be played and >listened to, and not the production of grist for the analytic mill. > >My apologies any open-minded theorists out there who recognize the >centrality of human experience to this thing we call "music." My >hat is off to those distinguished few, and I am left with just one >question for them: Why have you not succeeded in awakening your >souless brethren? > If you had attended the Oakland meeting of the Society for Music Theory, you might have discovered that there are more of those "open-minded theorists" out there than you assumed. This is why I began my argument along this thread by invoking Sturgeon's Law. The "Good Guys" are out there, Ed; but they are always going to be a minority! As far as your final question is concerned, we probably both know the answer equally well: It is always going to be easier to complete a thesis, publish a paper, or receive a grant for being good a manipulating the symbols of your trade than for asking hard questions about behavioral practice and then revealing that you can only come up with bare splinters of answers. > -Ed Hall, who is being a bit of a curmudgeon this week I'm not feeling any better, myself, Ed; and I hope it has been clear that I have not been trying to "pick on you." Personally, I do not think any society ever offers much encouragement towards asking truly hard questions. The good news is that the people who ask them are rarely put off by the attitude of that society. =============================================================================== Stephen W. Smoliar Institute of Systems Science National University of Singapore Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Kent Ridge SINGAPORE 0511 BITNET: ISSSSM@NUSVM "He was of Lord Essex's opinion, 'rather to go an hundred miles to speak with one wise man, than five miles to see a fair town.'"--Boswell on Johnson