Newsgroups: comp.org.acm Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!aurora.physics.utoronto.ca!sysmark From: sysmark@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Mark Bartelt) Subject: Re: Communications Message-ID: <1991Jun25.175017.12876@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (News Administrator) Nntp-Posting-Host: aurora.physics.utoronto.ca Reply-To: mark@cita.toronto.edu Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA References: <1991Jun19.204044.11529@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1991 17:50:17 GMT In article <1991Jun19.204044.11529@agate.berkeley.edu> bks@lima.berkeley.edu (Bradley K. Sherman) writes: | I would like to add my voice to this chorus. Someone at CACM should | read Jon Bentley's old column on layout and check in with the SIGCHI | people about the shortcomings of overusing color and fonts. Hell, I'd be delighted if they'd start running Bentley's column again. It was truly annoying when it was dropped. I seem to recall (though I can't easily check, as most of my books and journals are in boxes at the moment) that a year or two after dropping it, the editors announced that the column would be reinstated. I don't recall ever seeing its reappearance, though. In any case, things have become truly appalling. (I know a couple of folks who feel that the quality of the *content* had deteriorated to the point that it was no longer worth reading years ago, making the topic of layout and graphics an irrelevant one. But we'll leave that one for a different thread ...) Since the small subset of my stuff that's not in boxes is totally disorganized, it was easy to take a random sample off the shelf: I picked the first three CACMs I found -- Feb90, Sep90, and Jun91. The first one predates the invasion of the layout artists from hell, and still has the appearance of a professional journal, more or less. Sep90 reflects the beginning of the downward trend, and Jun90 has reached the level of self-parody. (What purpose, for example, does the nonsense along the top of pages 68-84 serve?) They really have fallen prey to what a friend calls the "ransom note style of document preparation". Mark Bartelt 416/978-5619 Canadian Institute for mark@cita.toronto.edu Theoretical Astrophysics mark@cita.utoronto.ca