Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!uupsi!fernwood!apple!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!rutgers!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!rice!news From: wruss00@ricevm1.rice.edu (William R. Russell, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Repost from Telecom Message-ID: <1991Jun24.042434.3407@rice.edu> Date: 24 Jun 91 04:24:34 GMT References: <91174.131736ELE@psuvm.psu.edu> Sender: news@rice.edu (News) Followup-To: comp.org.eff.talk Distribution: na Organization: Rice University Lines: 47 [[ My apologies. The news header on my last message seems to have ]] [[ gotten terribly mangled; most of the message is missing and I ]] [[ can't cancel it. Here is a repost. Sorry. Rick ]] In article <91174.131736ELE@psuvm.psu.edu> ELE@psuvm.psu.edu (Jeremy) writes: >This was posted in comp.dcom.telecom today and if what he says is >reasonable we've all got some serious thinking to do. I would like >to see responses to this. ... [Begin quote by bill@ssbn.wlk.com (Bill Kennedy)] >My concern is strictly for the damage that Len did to people and >organizations who were just whooshed into his vortex. ... >> One stark bad example. Heading off to jail. Now, let us contrast the >> damage done by Mr. Rose to the damage done by the SS to Steve Jackson >> Games, and scale an appropriate sentence for them. > >Tanner makes my point with precision. Let me enumerate the damage >done which could have been avoided had Len acted more responsibly: > >Steve Jackson games - They never would have become vulnerable to SS >abuse had Len not made excursions beyond reason and the law. This >wasn't Tanner's point, but it's my take on it. [End quote by bill@ssbn.wlk.com (Bill Kennedy)] ... I tried to quote/requote minimal material here... I hope I don't confuse anyone. If this post is to be taken seriously, the worst demon we must fear is ignorance and misinformation. Len Rose had *nothing* to do with the attack on SJG. His name does not appear in the search warrant, or in the complaint issued by SJG with the help of the EFF. One might argue that Len Rose's activity brought "official" scrutiny on certain cmputing activites, which may have led to the investigation of the 911 service documents and subsequent connection to Loyd Blankenship, writer for SJG. But that is a very tenuous argument, which attempts to shift the blame from the Secret Service to Len Rose, who had nothing to do with it whatsoever. To link Mr. Rose's case to the assault on SJG is a reprehensible use of sensationalism, at best. Rick wruss00@ricevm1.rice.edu