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From: kdenning@genesis.Naitc.Com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Allow students to run password guessers?
Message-ID: <1991Jun24.173743.11003@Firewall.Nielsen.Com>
Summary: This is a specious and bull-pucky argument
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 91 17:37:43 GMT

In article <44260@fmsrl7.UUCP> wreck@fmsrl7.UUCP (Ron Carter) writes:
>In article <1991Jun24.041435.5423@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:
>>This is getting ridiculous. Our policy is that students are *not* allowed
>>to obtain passwords without the consent of the password owner, by any means
>>whatever.

Note, however, that COPS does NOT give you the "guessed" password.  It only
tells you that the password was easily compromised, not WHAT it is.

Therefore, it would be OK for me to run COPS on your systems.  But you have
said that it isn't.  Why?

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