Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!looking!brad From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Repost from Telecom Message-ID: <1991Jun25.005151.27279@looking.on.ca> Date: 25 Jun 91 00:51:51 GMT References: <91174.131736ELE@psuvm.psu.edu> <1991Jun24.194821.5299@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Lines: 16 I suspect what Bill is trying to say is "we have cops (and thus inevitably law-abusive cops) because there are lawbreakers." The more lawbreaking there is, the more call there is for enforcement and the more trouble this enforcement will cause for innocent people, because of the fact that the enforcers are far from perfect. So in this sense, those who do screw around (and I make no judgement in particular on the Rose case, I don't know the details) are indeed a *cause* of the rights abuses suffered by the innocent. However, the fact that there are lawbreakers out there is not an excuse for absuse of the law, and we should not let it be an excuse, so saying that Rose, assuming he was indeed a nasty guilty party, is to *blame* for increased enforcement is a trap into which would should not fall. -- Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473