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From: joachim@jrix.radig.de (Joachim Riedel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: cnews/wnews/rn
Message-ID: <1991Jun25.054914.5966@jrix.radig.de>
Date: 25 Jun 91 05:49:14 GMT
References: <1991Jun23.020348.20525@skypod.guild.org>
Organization: Joachim Riedel, Offenbach, West Germany
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marc@skypod.guild.org (Marc Fournier) writes:

> news also.  I logged onto piggy.ucsb.edu and tried to transfer
> cnews.tar.Z and wnews.tar.Z but as soon as I got it onto my
I modified WNEWS 3.0 MINIX for use with Coherent. A friend ftp'ed
it to piggy.

> computer, and uncompressed it and tried to untar it, it screwed
> up.  The uncompressing worked no problem, but as soon as I untared
> it, it really screwed up the file system.  All the files contained
> the same thing and seemed to be links to the directory.  I don't
> know what happened, since I've used tar many times before hand.
Uugh! Seems to be they still have their old tar.
WNEWS and I think CNEWS are tar'ed with either ustar or gnutar. If Coherent
old tar gets one of this files it creates recursive directories instead of
unpacking the files. 
What I did: go single user, try to find the recursive INODE with ls -i ..
and clri ugly_inode . Reboot immediately with no sync.

Afterwards:  delete Coherent's tar, always use ustar or gnutar (also on piggy).

BTW: WNEWS is easy to install but has less options. CNEWS for Coherent has
now a very good installation script so it is much easier installing it than
without the script. But my opinion is that only experienced News "readers"
should try installing CNEWS.
On piggy there is also TASS 3.2, a curses based newsreader. Very good.
There is also Geoff's- G-NEWS (no, not G'NUZ), another small news package
for Coherent, it should be available from MWCBBS.


> 	Now, I   don't know which...cnews or wnews...is the better, 
> or easier one to implement on Coherent, but I would like the one
> that won't take me forever to get going.
I use CNEWS on my Interactive 386/ix SysV 3.2
I use GNEWS on my laptop with Coherent 
I use WNEWS on my 386 with Coherent.

So that may give you an idea which program you should use.

> the one that comes with it..that works on Coherent??  I'm used to
> elm, but fear that it is probably not easily ported, is it??
There is COMB on piggy, a curses based mailer interface. I think that
now a smart mailer is in 3.2 that should work with COMB
WMAIL (piggy) is a mailx-clone and also not bad. But also needs a smart
mailer (like SMAIL 2.5)
Ftp them, try them but use  ustar  !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ciao,
Joachim

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