Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!daisy!chetl From: chetl@daisy.tamu.edu (Chet Laughlin) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer Subject: Re: 8088 vs 8086 Message-ID: <17641@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 21 Jun 91 20:05:37 GMT References: <1722@balrog.ctron.com> <1991Jun21.153305.23525@maytag.waterloo.edu> <1606@cvbnetPrime.COM> Sender: usenet@helios.TAMU.EDU Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University. Lines: 38 In article <1606@cvbnetPrime.COM> kanderse@money.UUCP (Kurt Andersen) writes: >In article <1991Jun21.153305.23525@maytag.waterloo.edu> dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) writes: >>Nope, the XT was 8088 based as well. I can't think of any machine that >>IBM released that used the 8086, though one of the early PS/2 machines >>may have. >>Duncan Murdoch >>dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu >As I recall the first verrsion of the IBM pc used 8086. >This version failed and was shortly followed by the >8088 version of the IBM pc. >Every so often you here about someone looking for IO cards >for an original IBM pc. The 8086 IBM pc had a different >bus design then the popular IBM pc. >-Kurt I can't vouch for the red carpet/blue carpet story, but the first IBM PCs did use Intel 8086s. They also had cassette ports in the back, as some of you may recall. The machine is called a PC-1 internally by IBM hardware reps. The motherboard came with 256K of RAM if I remember right, and could hold 512k. The PC-2 came out later, and had an Intel 8088. There was room on the motherboard for 640k and the cassette port had dissappeared - but Basic still supports it... As for the bus design, I really can't remember anymore if there was a difference between the 8088 and 8086 versions. I do know you could place the same mono or CGA cards in either machine and they worked fine. I'd have to pull out a schematic for both before making any definite calls. Anyone else remember when you got a schematic for the machine when you bought one. (a little nostalgia never hurt) oh yes, and BIOS listings to boot in the Tech manuals. No PS/2 or PS/1 machines used the 8088. -Chet Laughlin