Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!dgp.toronto.edu!mccool Newsgroups: comp.robotics From: mccool@dgp.toronto.edu (Michael McCool) Subject: Re: Small Hovering Hobby Robots Message-ID: <1991Jun23.095642.872@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> References: <00949D78.A594B600@vms.csd.mu.edu> <25523@well.sf.ca.us> <1991Jun20.155520.12703@sagpd1> Date: 23 Jun 91 13:56:42 GMT Lines: 35 I've been following this line for a while, and thought I would put in my two cent's worth of ridiculous suggestions. Would it be possible to combine the gyroscope and the lifting blade? My idea: make the lifter a *ring* that rotates around the *outside* of the robot; possibly make the whole robot T-shaped with the batteries at the bottom of the T for weight balancing. The combination of gyroscopic effect and low center of balance should keep the whole thing stable, and using the blade doubling as a gyroscope will save weight. To avoid counter- rotation, you would actually need two blades rotating in opposite directions. If you could control the speeds of these independently you would have a quick way to rotate the entire robot. The rings would need to have different numbers of blades to avoid "beating" with one another and making a lot of noise. For safety, you would have to either cast the blades out of rubber or encase them in a shield. For forward motion, just have some way of shifting the center of gravity off-center, which will tilt the robot forward (actually, you'd have to deal with the gyro effect, of course... have fun). So, you don't need a thruster. If you had the weight-shifting under computer control you could probably do dynamic balancing and not need an ungainly T shape. You are going to need some pretty sophisticated navigation anyways for a powered hovering vehicle. The robot would end up looking like a flying saucer. I tend to like this because it leaves you a lot of protected space in the middle of the beast to mount your electronics, and a way to suspend things (like cameras and arms) from the center of the robot. By the way, I thought of this when I was 15 and it just came back to me. Don't flame me if it's mechanically impossible; I'm a computer engineer, not a mechanical :-) Michael McCool.