Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner From: rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: The Amiga's Future Message-ID: Date: 23 Jun 91 18:48:08 GMT References: <1991Jun21.183216.29240@news.iastate.edu> <88@ryptyde.UUCP><17300@chopin.udel.edu> Distribution: world Organization: Michigan Information eXchange Lines: 42 don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) writes: >In article <88@ryptyde.UUCP> dant@ryptyde.UUCP (Daniel Tracy) writes: >>This is what Apple is doing with the Macintosh Classic? This is nothing new. >>Every Macintosh since the 512KE (1985?) had built in SCSI. But you may >>be right about that being a major factor in its success. > > > It also contributed heavily to the lack of _decent_ SCSI controllers for >the Mac. Since Apple's controler is built in, very few companies bother tryin >to market their own, no matter how much better it would be. > Right now there are ~20 3rd party HD controllers for the Amiga. Suddenly >including SCSI controllers in stock machines would get a number of people very >upset. CBM's controller design is pretty nice, but I'd rather have some other >options if I were buying a 2000 or 500. Piss them off! If the end cost to the user is only $50, and the cheapest DMA controller he can find retail is $130, he won't care how fast it is in most cases. Anyways, Commodore now knows what its doing with SCSI controllers it seems. The hardware in the A3000 proves it, so why not let them go standard? I have had nothing but problems with every hard drive controller I have owned, I got the recipts to prove it! I have a hardframe here I can't sell if my life depended on it that doesn't reconginse Seagate and Maxtor drives, I had a 2090 which worked very good but lacked the polished GUI installation programs and didn't reconginse FFS on the first partition, I had a 2091 that we are still using(with reselection problems), and I had TWO GVP Series II HD controllers that both started acting flaky after a few months of use, and trying to get something exchanged with GVP is hard when you can not have much downtime...My friend has a Supra word-sneek and that sucker gives him wierd DOS library GURU's.... Not only did Commodore get 20 or so 3rd party HD controllers because they never included SCSI in the motherboard design, they probably got 17 or so 3rd party controllers that wouldn't meet Commodore's quality standards if they decided to use them as standard equipment on a certain machine.... -- C-UseNet V0.42e Ronald Kushner Life in Hell BBS +1 (313) 939-6666 P.O. Box 353 14400 USR HST V.42 & V.42bis Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0353 Complete Amiga Support UUCP: uunet!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner (We are not satanic, just NUTS!) No blood for oil! Raising C.A.F.E. to 40MPG is just that!