Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:4468 comp.sys.amiga.misc:4879 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!pacbell.com!tandem!zorch!xanthian From: xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Re: Another Amiga reorganization needed? Message-ID: <1991Jun24.232607.749@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Date: 24 Jun 91 23:26:07 GMT References: <1991Jun23.025955.25000@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix Lines: 69 rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) writes: > xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >> caw@miroc.Chi.IL.US (Christopher A. Wichura) writes: >>> I, too, think that c.s.a.futures would be a good >>> idea. And I do realize the problem with flames. >>> However, for a group that could potentially have >>> a fair number of messages, how much of a >>> slowdown would having a moderator be? >> Probably not as bad as the current slowdown to >> counter offensive flamers that sidetracks the >> discussion on a frequent basis. There's really >> not much use pulling the material out of >> .advocacy if the quality of the discussion can't >> be raised a _lot_, and moderation looks like the >> way to go. >> Other comments on this issue? > A lot of Amiga UUCP and newsreaders do not > understand how to easily post to an moderated > newsgroup. They are not as bright as CNews is, so > you'll be getting a lot of "confused" people that > only carry comp.sys.amiga#? that are new to the > net (last 6 months) and will not have software > capable of mailing a post to the moderator > automatically...Plus on a BBS, imagine the end > user, not knowing he has to MAIL to moderator, but > instead posts or followups with the confused > software, and the item never make it > anywhere...PostNews in AmigaUUCP just doesn't > understand moderated groups Well, things aren't quite that bad; if you post to the group, it gets intercepted (by your site or one downstream) and mailed to the moderator automatically. The arguments you put forth are arguments against _any_ moderated groups, and in fact moderated groups work quite well on the net, despite the wide variety of posting software and posters' skills, so while it may be a problem for the individual poster to climb the learning curve, moderation is not a problem for the net overall. > So you'll get more messages from -MB- and less > from others... I hope not; one of the jobs of a moderator is to _refuse_ to post off track garbage of the typical -MB- generic sort. > Do followups have to go through a moderator?? Poor > guy... Well, yes, since tossing out inappropriate followups is the gist of the job. And yes, you won't see me volunteering for the job -- I lose my temper too easily -- but there are lots of folks who do it for the glory or just the chance to be of service. I had twice as many moderator volunteers as I had groups to moderate, last go around, so there are folks out there who don't mind doing the work in exchange for a better functioning newsgroup, in an area where they have a special interest. Kent, the man from xanth.