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From: lmbailey@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Laurana Bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Commodore Business Machines
Message-ID: <7518@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
Date: 25 Jun 91 22:33:33 GMT
References: <7471@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <13365@uwm.edu>
Organization: Lemming-Aid 1992 - Benefit Concert To Save The Lemmings
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In article <13365@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
| From article <7471@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, by lmbailey@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Laurana Bailey):
| > My boyfriend runs a Paragon BBS off and on when he's got the extra $$$
| > to do so. He writes a door program called Castle Dungeon for it that
| 
| Tell him that Greg Block, Conference Mail developer, tells him good
| luck on deciding which BBS system to run next, and that I think he
| should go with Xenolink, to save him some trouble porting Castle
| Dungeon.  :)

Thanx Greg, I will do. He's waiting to see what FreeForm BBS will be
like before he makes a final decision. XenoLink is high on his list
though.

| 
| > computer dealer for the Amiga. Al, the owner of the store and BBS
| > system, is going bankrupt selling Amigas. He has recently been posting
| > some of the reasons why in the Amiga FidoNet Echomail areas. Some of
| 
| Well, firstly.  :)  He's been posting to every Amiga fidonet group on
| the Backbone, and he is completely 1) out of line, 2) off topic, and
| 3) arrogant when listening to the explanations...  It's not like that
| everywhere.  It's just the way it's set up, and when that woman went
| off on her little errand, a lot of things got messed up.  She's back,
| and she's worked out all the problems here.  Everything WILL be fine,
| it's just a matter of following things to the letter, which was done
| here.  Obviously, Al didn't, but they'll help him straighten
| everything out.
| 
| And tell him to stop posting all over the place like that.  Not even
| MB is that rude.  :)

We've already talked to him about that. He is an emotional fellow :-)
I can understand it though as he's worked hard to support the Amiga
and Commodore and feels like he's being turned on. He is the dealer
who sold B.B. King his first Amiga, and has sold him several others
since. (Sold him an A3000 not too long ago.) You get a little panicy
when you feel everything you've worked for is in jeapordy.

| 
| > Everyone was excited and went home to wait and watch. Alas, there were
| > many market areas virtually untouched by this "Blitz". Al's area, and
| > even here in the Metro Detroit area, saw little, if any, of the ads
| 
| They weren't seen in Wisconsin, either, as far as I know.  Milwaukee
| hasn't seen anything from C= in a long time.  But things are going
| well.  It's a matter of using what you have.

From what I understand the advertising was limited to the major
metropolitan areas like Los Angelos, Washington DC, Detroit, Miami,
etc.

| 
| > isn't though and as such he will be closing down. He's fully expecting
| > Commodore to pull his dealership status for having the gall to speak
| > out about his problems, and with the way Commodore has been the last
| > few years, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they did.
| 
| Spare me, worse has been said to them.  I would be more than
| surprised.  And things are changing, slowly but surely.   It's no
| longer like it used to be.  And things are picking up, even in Milwaukee.

Lets hope so.

| 
| > converted from Apple with the arrivial of the Amiga. All in all we
| 
| So did I.  :)
| 
| > shutting down US sales seeing as they couldn't do well here. Couldn't
| > do well? They haven't done anything to promote good sales here. Makes
| 
| I don't think they'll be shutting down....  I haven't thought that in
| a long time.

As I said, it was only a rumor and should be taken as such.

| 
| > I once had big hopes for Commodore and the Amiga, but both seemed
| > doomed to stay a second class company with  a second class machine.
| 
| If you mean that they won't have IBM's popularity, I'll agree.  But I
| think given time it will grow.

Again, I hope so.

| 
| > PRAYED it would happen! Whatever HP did with the Amiga, it would STILL
| > have been more than what CBM was doing. Same thing with the recent
| > Sony rumors. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE will someone with some
| > advertising BRAINS and interest in advanced R&D PLEASE BUY OUT
| > COMMODORE and get this thing MOVING in SOME sort of direction!?!?
| 
| And lose the direction they're beginning to have?  No, I think they're
| just beginning to begin what they promised...
| 
| The Amiga is just now getting the recognition, power, and strength in
| the market that it needs, and C= is finally getting the kinds of
| profits they'll need to start running a good campaign.  I'm expecting
| a HUGE CDTV rollout, that's where they're going to put their earnings,
| I think.  And if that goes well, which I think it will, it will be
| better for the Amiga as well.

I hope you are right. 

| 
| Greg

Laurana

P.S. Thanx for the statement of your views without flaming me for the
statement of my own. Some people on this net don't seem to be capable
of that.

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