Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo!rehrauer From: rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer) Subject: Re: A new Amiga needed...and soon! Lines: 57 Message-ID: <1991Jun25.174944.15705@apollo.hp.com> Sender: netnews@apollo.hp.com (USENET posting account) Nntp-Posting-Host: copper.ch.apollo.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA References: <1991Jun24.223616.16742@crash.cts.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1991 17:49:44 GMT In article <1991Jun24.223616.16742@crash.cts.com> seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes: >I sure hope C= has some neat tricks up their sleeve...I've just heard three >pseudo-rumors that have me worried. I'm not trying to play -MB- here, but >I think they're cause for general concern. > >1. The discussions betw-_en IBM and Apple involve the exchange of Apple's > software and interface technology for POWER RISC chips. > >2. On October 21st Apple will unveil three new CPUs: an '040 tower, an '040 > desktop, and an '030 based Classic. Their new laptops, or palmtops are > due in the next couple of months, maybe sooner. This is not meant as a flame, but why do you care? Anything Apple does with any RISC (I personally doubt very much whether the RS/6000 architecture will ever fly in an Apple box) is going to be far, far up the price scale from C= products. Ditto '040 boxes from Apple. >3. NeXT is accquiring MC88000 family RISC chips for the next generation > of their workstations. >NeXT is a threat for the UX systems since Commodore is now a low-end UNIX >workstation vendor. NeXT and Commodore seem to be playing very different segments of the Unix market. NeXT has the chutzpah to say, "Different is better". E.g.: DisplayPostscript rather than X/Motif; Mach rather than SysV or Berkley; and now (apparently) 88K rather than MIPS or SPARC (or perhaps PA-RISC? :). They may very well be right, but recent experience somewhat close to home has shown that "better" doesn't always mean "successful". :-< Commodore, on the other hand, seems to be saying, "Standard, standard, standard -- and by way, did we mention 'standard'?" A particularly sexy application might cause me to buy a NeXT. But if I wanted a "vanilla, read: 'standard'" Unix box, especially if I wanted to develop an application and cover the largest possible hardware/OS base with it, I'd certainly NOT consider a NeXT. Doesn't mean the NeXT is "bad", just different -- and MS-DOS continually proves that the majority of computer buyers don't want "different". >I think it'd be great for an '040 UNIX based tower setup to combat >Apple... I'm sure Apple wouldn't notice. Seriously, what makes you folks think that inviting direct comparisons with Macs would be good for the Amiga? I mean, even as a sidelines observer (I don't own an Amiga) I have to say that the Amiga is an interesting machine. But if I were Joe ComputerNaivePerson, and assuming I'd even heard of the Amiga, it would take very little time to convince me that a Mac was a "better" buy, even at 2x - 3x the price. (Please send flames directly to me; I don't want to clutter this group with the traffic -- we've all heard the arguments anyways, and I think even the most rabid Amiga supporters know what I'm trying to say.) -- "Did you check the car to see if it's okay for | Steve Rehrauer a long trip, Sam?" "Well, the wheels are still | rehrauer@apollo.hp.com on... and here's the key... Yep, everything | Hewlett-Packard checks out!" -- Freelance Police | MA Languages Lab