Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!jdickson From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: 2.0 for non-3000's Message-ID: <1991Jun21.172230.1987@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 21 Jun 91 17:22:30 GMT References: <22380@cbmvax.commodore.com> <7893@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM> <1991Jun20.180619.2049@zardoz.club.cc.cmu.edu> <1991Jun20.223220.19325@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <91172.104244GUTEST8@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be> Reply-To: jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 28 In article <91172.104244GUTEST8@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be> GUTEST8@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be (Ives Aerts) writes: >> The speed difference between ROM and FAST RAM is not great enough >>to justify having to load kickstart each time the blasted thing crashes, >>This of course, depends on how you use your Amiga. The way I use it - it's >>a royal pain in the ass! > >On the Amiga 3000 it is very rare to have a crash that removes the kickstart >from memory. The kickstart loaded in ram is protected with the MMU. You >can not simply write there. To overwrite this memory you will have to trash >the mmu tables and these are not so big. Ok, I will clarify. This wouldn't really apply to A3000s, because they have an MMU to protect kickstart. But this would apply to older systems that didn't have the luxury of an MMU (like moi). So far I've only received rebuttals from A3000 owners. How about comments from owners of more lowly models? >Also the loading of the kickstart on a 3000 takes only about 2 seconds. >Hardly noticable in my opinion. The whole Amiga community is NOT just made up of A3000s! Back in my A1000 days, all I had were floppy drives. The initial loading of the os seemed like a drawn out process. Imagine compounding that with the time required to load a kickstart image. Furthermore, the WorkBench disk is usu- ally too full to accomodate a kickstart image as well. What do you suggest for them? A multidisk set? -jeff