Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!ucbvax!DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL!TMPLee From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Heatseeker & Viruses Message-ID: <910624033812.116808@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> Date: 24 Jun 91 03:38:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 33 I do apologize if anyone, especially Mr. Curtis, was offended or insulted by my comments questioning the wisdom of accepting software of unknown provenance. (At the risk of offending a whole nationality some scholarly reference to Greeks bearing gifts would be a propos.) But I meant them seriously and none of the few comments I've received change the situation much. Jeff claims he is well-known to this list -- that has to be somewhat of an exaggeration in that in the last month there have been 1,396 messages posted to it, of which only 8 came from him; needless to say I would assume most poeple do not read all the traffic and I certainly didn't associate the Heatseeker announcement with anything I'd read before. (I have a GS and don't have Copy II+ so I wasn't at all interested in any the messages on that subject.) I have no reason to doubt that he is an upstanding person with no malicious intent, but on the other hand I have little solid evidence that he is who he says he is. (I'm sure you all remember the kremvax hoax of several years ago -- one cannot necessarily believe the headers on an e-mail message.) In this one case I will grant that I am probably over-reacting -- I'm pretty sure that if I called Argonne Labs they'd verify they did indeed have a Jeffrey Curtis working for them, at the phone numbers he gave, and if I called him I'd find a somewhat justifiably upset person on the other end who was writing a whizbang Apple II utility he calls Heatseeker. But that doesn't really remove all doubts. The real question is how cottage-industry software can be developed and distributed safely so we don't have to continually have this kind of discussion and so people can use the talents of such people without any nagging doubts. (I'm sure you all are aware that most large companies and government agencies have regulations prohibiting the use of freeware, shareware, or the like: if it doesn't come from IBM, Microsoft, Apple or some similar large publisher, forget it.) Ted Lee