Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!ogicse!clark!pro-palmtree.cts.com!stug From: stug@pro-palmtree.cts.com (Stu Graves) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Heatseeker Message-ID: <1991Jun25.070109.9155@clark.edu> Date: 23 Jun 91 21:26:51 GMT Sender: usenet@clark.edu Organization: Proline network. Lines: 71 In-Reply-To: message from curtis@achilles.ctd.anl.gov CS-ID: #650.apple/comp.sys.apple2@pro-palmtree, 3327 chars Date: 22 Jun 91 02:38:10 GMT From: curtis@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Jeffrey Curtis ) Subject: Re: Heatseeker In article <910621184230.584787@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL writes: >For one, I wouldn't touch this offer with a ten foot pole -- it sounds >like the perfect scenario for introducing and propagating a virus: a) >the program sounds too good to be true, and b) the author refuses to >supply source. I do hope that anyone foolish enough to grab a copy of >it never thereafter downloads any other software to the net -- the fact >that everything seems OK for you doesn't mean there hasn't been >something subtly planted that will show up a few generations later. Dear TMPLee- I am utterly shocked at your audacity. I have spent almost two years of my life painstakingly putting this software together for the good of the Apple // community. If I had stocked a virus in Heatseeker, it would be easy to identify the source - myself - and to track me down. Anyone who reads articles here knows my full name, where I work, and my telephone number. If they have the right software, they can even find out my home address and pay me a visit. I refuse to supply source code because any programmer who does so on such a good piece of software is nothing but an idiot. Supplying source code in a program distribution violates every Trade Secret law in existence in each of the states of the Union. If I supplied source, and someone from, say, Central Point saw it - and passed it on to the Copy //+ programming team - and I sued for obvious damages - my arguments would be pointless. Source given out to anyone - even if you show it to your secretary - removes EVERY protection you have under Copyright Laws. I am no such fool. So the program sounds too good to be true. So what? You refuse to believe that I'm daring enough to use technology that no one else in the Apple // community has the guts to use? The Apple environment DESERVES the best that they can get from their machines, and the current disk utility selection for the Apple // offers NOTHING by way of performance. The monopoly of companies such as Central Point who have enormous financial backing to control and corner the utility market leave no room for small-time programmers like myself. Why else would I be offering something that is the best for FREE? If you care to continue this discussion, I would be happy to in email or over the phone. I can be reached at (708)972-8585, or, if that line is busy, call me at (708)972-4082. If you want to continue this discussion here, where you can hide, that is fine as well. However, in the future, I sincerely hope you think before you act and keep such thoughtless opinions to yourself unless they have any basis in fact. Jeffrey S. Curtis Programmer and Defender of the Apple // Faith <---------------------- end of copied text ---------------> I for one believe what you say - although I haven't seen the program. I think that it's great that people are always trying to come up with innovative ideas for Apples. I do some amatuer programming of my own and can appreciate you wanting to sure you work with other Apple users. It also seems to be fairly obvious that you wouldn't be stupid enough to include a virus when we are on a system that doesn't allow handles normally and most people display their home numbers etc. I for one would be interested to see innovative new ideas. -- stug@pro-palmtree.cts.com -- The Palmtree BBS (213) 450-9394 300-9600 v.32/42bis, MNP 1-5 -- Santa Monica, California