Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!usenet From: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: file attributes Message-ID: <1991Jun22.184450.15172@convex.com> Date: 22 Jun 91 18:44:50 GMT References: <1991Jun20.021749.12011@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> <1750@sranha.sra.co.jp> <1991Jun22.171528.9624@decuac.dec.com> Sender: usenet@convex.com (news access account) Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) Organization: CONVEX Software Development, Richardson, TX Lines: 28 Nntp-Posting-Host: pixel.convex.com From the keyboard of mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. Ranum): : I realize that Macs do thier attribute stuff in the kernel, but :there is only one vendor that makes Macs, and it's easy to standardize :in that case. Don't junk up the already bloated kernel - write your :application right. Besides - I don't see how you can say UNIX doesn't :have good facilities for doing this kind of stuff - have you ever looked :at Visix' "Looking Glass" or something like that? It works fine, and :since they are producing a commercial product, they didn't have time to :wait for everyone to see the light and ram some useless new system :call into their kernel. You'll find that a non-zero portion of the users running under UNIX today are what we'd call technically unsophisticated users, ones whose principal prior experience with interactive computers is with a Mac. Some of these wish that there were a Mac-like interface for UNIX. I've looked at the Looking Glass product and was not particularly impressed. I don't really think this is what they want: to me, it wasn't configurable enough and way too clumsy. Now maybe it really is cumbersome, but maybe I'm just the wrong person to evaluate this stuff. Has anyone had any experience with a system of this nature that non-UNIX gurus like to use? Or do you just buy them Macs and be done with it? --tom -- Tom Christiansen tchrist@convex.com convex!tchrist "So much mail, so little time."