Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!decwrl!pa.dec.com!decprl!decprl!boyd From: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: file attributes Message-ID: <1991Jun25.101523.11773@prl.dec.com> Date: 25 Jun 91 10:15:23 GMT References: <1783@sranha.sra.co.jp> Sender: news@prl.dec.com (USENET News System) Reply-To: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory Lines: 36 Nntp-Posting-Host: prl313.prl.dec.com In article <1783@sranha.sra.co.jp>, erik@srava.sra.co.jp (Erik M. van der Poel) writes: > If the computer cannot handle a particular piece of data, the human > should be able to find out what the data is, in order to take > appropriate action (e.g. buy a copy of the application). That is why > we need human-readable metadata. `human readable'? So what language are you going to choose? Binary data and text are no different. They are a terminology, a subset of a language. So, are we going to use Esparanto to describe our data? Just look at Esparanto. It's an object lesson in how _not_ to do things. They said, `we need an international language'. They built one. Does anyone use it? Does it server any useful purpose? Another solution looking for a problem. Exactly the path you want to take. There isn't even a problem, and you have a `solution', lashed together with supposition and ignorance. > The magic number scheme was designed at a time when computer nerds > were excessively worried about disk space and efficiency. That's outrageous. You understand nothing. > Disk prices > are coming down, and shared libraries are becoming universal. We don't > need to worry about disk space and efficiency that much. Let's give > the ordinary humans some readable metadata. And let's give the > programmers some metadata that is extremely easy to parse, and very > extensible. I see you work in Japan. The last sentence mentions `shared libraries' and `efficiency'. So tell me you're not just a parody of `Ohta'? Boyd Roberts boyd@prl.dec.com ``When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro...''