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From: demillo@porter.geo.brown.edu (Rob DeMillo)
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Subject: Re: MDI Client Area
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Date: 25 Jun 91 17:02:42 GMT
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In article <19292@bunker.isc-br.com> rvd@clunker.UUCP (Robert Del Favero) writes:
>In article <79214@brunix.UUCP> demillo@porter.geo.brown.edu (Rob DeMillo) writes:
>>OK...here's the weekly MDI question.
>
>Yeah... :-(  I've found that when I applied myself to any Win3 programming
>problem, I solved it by myself in no more than a day or two, and learned
>a lot more in the process of finding my problem.  Not to flame Rob in
>particular, but I get tired of people using the Net to replace using
>their brains and the various debugging tools and books that are
>available.  Believe me, if I figured this out on my own, it can't be
>that hard.

Well, I took it as a flame, anyway.

Look at it this way...I do a *lot* of programming...I put in about
60-75 hours/week working on various systems ranging from Win3 to
X Windows (I even have the Perzold book, pretty amazing
that I couldn't find the answer in there, huh?)
...concepts are all identical, but they are implemented
differently. I spend a *lot* of time tracking down the answers
to questions myself...and, in fact, I rarely post to here. 
On the other hand, isn't that what the ...programmer suffix means?
Programming related newsgroups?

I do not consider my question superficial in any way, Robert...in fact,
since the answer involves using the Client window differently than
you do other window objects (i.e. DefFrameProc() behaves differently
than one might expect) - you yourself suggested that you foiund the
problem by "stepping around with Spy" - I think this was a legitimate
"has anyone else out there figured this out" question.

Now, you gave me the answer I was looking for, so I am not going
to sit here and start name calling because of a bruised ego, but...

There is a huge programming community out here, Robert. If you want
to sit around and be an ass to people who have legitimate questions,
go ahead...to yourself! Don't pompously post a response like
this, complete with "gee whiz look at all of this code *I*
wrote on my *own*" examples and expect to cover it up 
with "not to flame Rob in particular."

You *can* take that as a flame.

...and, by the way, thanks for the response.



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