Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!lib!sob From: sob@lib.tmc.edu (Stan Barber) Newsgroups: news.software.nntp Subject: Re: NNTPD hates Message-IDs with TWO '@'s in them. (BIG log file attached to this posting) Message-ID: <5127@lib.tmc.edu> Date: 19 Jun 91 06:15:56 GMT References: <1991Jun16.063341.13609@kithrup.COM> <6021@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> <1991Jun17.193252.28272@zoo.toronto.edu> Organization: Texas Medical Center, Houston Lines: 68 In article <1991Jun17.193252.28272@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >Actually, the consistency between Rick Adams's "version" control-message >census and our statistics based on message-ID format strongly suggests >that very few people have in fact hacked the ID format. Okey. Let's look at the following article. My comments are in square brackets. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b Subject: Recently observed nonconforming Message-IDs (discussion) Message-ID: <1991Jun12.071111.29652@twinsun.com> Date: 12 Jun 1991 07:11:11 GMT Sender: usenet@twinsun.com Organization: Twin Sun, Inc Lines: 79 Xref: lib news.admin:12899 news.software.b:6601 Nntp-Posting-Host: twinsun [first paragraph deleted] I looked at a sample news history file containing 63381 recent Usenet Message-IDs, and found 388 nonconforming Message-IDs. Here is a table of reasons for lack of conformance, together with the number of corresponding Message-IDs. #articles conformance problem, and example nonconforming Message-ID 217 The local-part may not contain an unquoted `:'. <17169:Jun1122:04:5791@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> [This looks like it might have been a CNEWS message id.] 47 A domain may not end with `.'. <25590171@hpcvra.cv.hp.com.> [This looks like it might be bnews or notes. Since it is hp, it is probably notes.] 42 A domain may not begin with `.'. <9106052317.AA01532@.devon.prepnet.com> [Looks like something sendmail might generate.] 36 A Message-ID cannot contain two unquoted `@'s. <1991Jun6.165406.70@%boot.decnet@edwards-tems.af.mil> [Looks like CNEWS again.] 32 The local-part may not end with `.'. [Hard to know here.....] 22 The local-part may not begin with `.'. <.+9+WD_@cs.widener.edu> [Ditto] 17 Two adjacent unquoted `.'s may not appear in a Message-ID. <9105211421.AA10695@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen..de> [Looks like sendmail....] 12 The domain may not be empty. <1991Jun5.192745.1945@> [Looks like CNEWS....] 2 The local-part may not contain an unquoted `]'. <]ocdj2.cj7@cat.de> [Can't guess.] 2 Quotes must match. <"<9105141856.AA26881@cnmus.cnm.us.es> [Sendmail?] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Out of the 10 given in the article, four look like Cnews. That a pretty big percentage, but 10 is small. Perhaps, only four people either didn't know how to install Cnews properly or just didn't want to generate legal Message-ids. It is interesting to note that none of them were generated by bnews. Unless that hp site was running bnews.