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From: brendan@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: NNTPD hates Message-IDs with TWO '@'s in them.  (BIG log file attached to this posting)
Message-ID: <7NJ-8AK@cs.widener.edu>
Date: 19 Jun 91 12:26:39 GMT
References: <6021@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> <1991Jun17.193252.28272@zoo.toronto.edu> <5127@lib.tmc.edu>
Organization: Widener CS Dept
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sob@lib.tmc.edu wrote:
>In article <1991Jun17.193252.28272@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>>Actually, the consistency between Rick Adams's "version" control-message
>>census and our statistics based on message-ID format strongly suggests
>>that very few people have in fact hacked the ID format.
>
>Okey. Let's look at the following article. 
>My comments are in square brackets.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
>Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b
>Subject: Recently observed nonconforming Message-IDs (discussion)
>Message-ID: <1991Jun12.071111.29652@twinsun.com>
>Date: 12 Jun 1991 07:11:11 GMT
>Sender: usenet@twinsun.com
>Organization: Twin Sun, Inc
>Lines: 79
>Xref: lib news.admin:12899 news.software.b:6601
>Nntp-Posting-Host: twinsun
>
>[first paragraph deleted]
>
>I looked at a sample news history file containing 63381 recent Usenet
>Message-IDs, and found 388 nonconforming Message-IDs.  Here is a table
>of reasons for lack of conformance, together with the number of
>corresponding Message-IDs.
>
>#articles   conformance problem, and example nonconforming Message-ID
>
>    217   The local-part may not contain an unquoted `:'.
>          <17169:Jun1122:04:5791@kramden.acf.nyu.edu>
>[This looks like it might have been a CNEWS message id.]
>     47   A domain may not end with `.'.
>          <25590171@hpcvra.cv.hp.com.>
>[This looks like it might be bnews or notes. Since it is hp, it is 
>probably notes.]
>     42   A domain may not begin with `.'.
>          <9106052317.AA01532@.devon.prepnet.com>
>[Looks like something sendmail might generate.]
>     36   A Message-ID cannot contain two unquoted `@'s.
>          <1991Jun6.165406.70@%boot.decnet@edwards-tems.af.mil>
>[Looks like CNEWS again.]
>     32   The local-part may not end with `.'.
>          <k#mh7z.@rpi.edu>
>[Hard to know here.....]
>     22   The local-part may not begin with `.'.
>          <.+9+WD_@cs.widener.edu>
>[Ditto]
>     17   Two adjacent unquoted `.'s may not appear in a Message-ID.
>          <9105211421.AA10695@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen..de>
>[Looks like sendmail....]
>     12   The domain may not be empty.
>          <1991Jun5.192745.1945@>
>[Looks like CNEWS....]
>      2   The local-part may not contain an unquoted `]'.
>          <]ocdj2.cj7@cat.de>
>[Can't guess.]
>      2   Quotes must match.
>          <"<9105141856.AA26881@cnmus.cnm.us.es>
>[Sendmail?]
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>
>Out of the 10 given in the article, four look like Cnews. That a pretty
>big percentage, but 10 is small. Perhaps, only four people either didn't
>know how to install Cnews properly or just didn't want to generate
>legal Message-ids. 
>
>It is interesting to note that none of them were generated by bnews.
>Unless that hp site was running bnews. 


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