Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!caen!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: drm2@mvuxn.att.com (David R Moran) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Re: Chesky's 128x oversampling Message-ID: <13394@uwm.edu> Date: 25 Jun 91 12:52:09 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 32 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu In article <13355@uwm.edu> jas@proteon.com (John A. Shriver) writes: >I think the only thing "proprietary" about Chesky's 128X oversampling >is that they built their own A/D hardawre to do it. They did this >over a year ago, before the DCS 900 was available. Maybe a more >appropriate term would have been "exclusive", since at that time they >were producting the only CD's mastered through oversampling A/D's. >(I have no idea how many bits they are taking per sample.) > Where do you get this stuff? The tweak mags, or manufs' lit? So far as I (or anyone else, I believe) know, Chesky uses the UltraAnalog (dbx) low-bit A/D, the first of the new generation of linear-phase A/Ds. It was designed by Bob Adams in 1987; he is now at Analog Devices. Crystal in Texas makes the only other such, I think. D/As with good phase behavior are now easy; A/Ds are not, not at all. The DAT decks with good A/Ds say inside, on the chip, Asahi, which is the distributor of the Crystal part in Japan (I think I have this right). Analog Devices is about to come out with its own (or already has) wonderful A/D, better than anything else, I hear. Not Philips nor Sony has anything like this; Sony will likely buy a lot of the Analog Devices part. The UltraAnalog/dbx set is large, not fully integrated, expensive, and the Japanese above all else want to be sure of the supply.... Telarc (recently) and Albany are two other labels besides Chesky which use the UltraAnalog A/D. Albany's is a custom bootleg, in fact, I hear. The situation is fluid and changing as we speak. Perhaps Hauser can enlighten us further or correct any mistakes I have made. But Chesky did not do their own design, and all of the tweako bullshit (Wadia, Apogee, et al.) I believe does not obtain for the field of linear-phase A/D converters.... David Moran