Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!bunda From: bunda@cs.utexas.edu (John Bunda) Newsgroups: rec.skydiving Subject: Re: Student in tow (was Re: oops (urban folklore) Message-ID: <1566@needmore.cs.utexas.edu> Date: 20 Jun 91 18:10:25 GMT References: <3529@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> <1563@needmore.cs.utexas.edu> <3535@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX Lines: 35 In article <3535@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> mspurgeo@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Mike Spurgeon) writes: > Our 182 flies quite well with 4 or 5 >outside and in the door. Why would two on a s/l be any more difficult? Well, as they say, your mileage may vary. Seriously though, sure, it *flies* fine, but have a glance at the VSI next time you've got a 4-way on the step, especially with the power cut back to 12" or less and maintaining 70-75mph (I do speak as an experienced jump pilot here). The airplane appears to be (and is) flying fine - it's just got the same descent rate as an open canopy - higher if you insist on a really deep cut, like s/l jumpmasters often request to reduce the prop blast for first-timers. At 10,000 feet, your 4-way can spend a while lounging on the step without noticing more than a few seconds taken off the top of the skydive. Video of an in-tow I've seen, like Wally Gubbins, was done at high altitude. However, most real static line jumps are from 3,000 AGL, leaving far less room to play with. You surely want to get that student under a canopy above 1000'. As for the airplane, the jumpers on the end of the static line plus the ailerons and rudder you need to maintain wings level are going to make it a draggy, ponderous beast to fly. Even adding power, I have my doubts about getting the thing to climb, though it would certainly help if there were no other jumpers in the plane. Having said all this, I admit I haven't tried the experiment with a static line, I just read about it somewhere, either Skydiving or Parachutist, or maybe a PIA document, I'm just relating what I remember reading. But, at the same time, I have little trouble believing it. -John -- John Bunda * bunda@cs.utexas.edu * {uunet,harvard}!cs.utexas.edu!bunda