Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!uniwa!cc.curtin.edu.au!tcliftonr From: tcliftonr@cc.curtin.edu.au Newsgroups: rec.skydiving Subject: Skydiving at supersonic airspeeds Message-ID: <1991Jun24.135815.8781@cc.curtin.edu.au> Date: 24 Jun 91 05:58:15 GMT Organization: Curtin University of Technology Lines: 83 In the discussions arising from GRAPH OF OSC'N DUE TO HIGH WINDFORCE Walter@cayman.AMD.COM (Walter Butler) writes: >It is possible that the jumper ( at 750 mph and 1.6 gees of >drag after a 120 000 ft exit) will have stability problems >from the supersonic airflow. Because of the soft impact with the atmosphere there will be an extended period of 30 seconds or so of deceleration, where much more wind force is available to induce "rocking" in a normally utterly stable skydiver. (A non skydiver is likely to go further, into a tumble, and a spin is also likely) >I am no expert, but believe that the shockwaves can cause >very localized areas of high stress and drag. Yes! The sound waves going down cannot escape downwards and so bank up as a flat cone of compressed air around each extremity. This would mean for a normally exposed skydiver that chin, knees etc would take more of the wind force than usual. But how much more? Will it make you sneeze or will it make your eyes water? Will it be enough to sense under all that protective clothing? The total force is still only 16 N/kg or so averaged over the whole body. It doesn't seem that local concentrations of force would be intolerable, but perhaps enough to provide for some rare phenomena to be first experienced by a brave pioneer. Certainly the position and attitude of the chin etc will affect the amount of build up. How long does it take to build up to equilibrium anyway? The compression can't accumulate indefinitely, it must bleed off sideways. If it takes a second to build up, the jumper will experience a tendency to nod in free fall. Hardly a terrifying danger. >A simulation of the jump performed in this manner would >be interesting. It sure would. Perhaps some of your NASA colleagues - the re- entry people - might know enough of the physics. Perhaps they already have a re-entry simulator. As it stands, this (subsonic) simulator is extrapolated out of its proven valid range. In particular, we need to know how the drag coefficient (for us brick-shapes) changes for low supersonic flight. Then we need to know the effect of temperature on the drag coefficient. Certainly the stratospheric cold of -56 degrees affects viscosity and reduces drag. For vibrations and oscillations, we need to know the effect of the compression cones on the extremities and how long they take to build up. >The diver might use a style tuck while supersonic. It would one way to get respite from some irritation due to vibration or suchlike. But it would be more unstable than an arch and the moment of inertia would reduce, so increasing the likelihood of a fast rotation or tumble in the high force wind. >This would also have the added "benefit" of increasing >his top speed. How gung-ho do they have to be? What a story that would make! "First supersonic skydiver in history strains for a morsel more of the unknown..." Let's salute their first exploration of impact. Whatever they find out for us, it is going to be interesting. Roger Clifton Curtin University West Australia. 6:91