Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucla-cs!usenet From: gerri@watson.ibm.com (Gerri Oppedisano) Newsgroups: sci.med.aids Subject: precum and AIDS (referrenced note attached below..) Message-ID: <1991Jun21.195920.21157@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 21 Jun 91 19:52:39 GMT Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News Himself) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Lines: 47 Approved: phil@wubios.wustl.edu Note: non-commercial reproduction. Nntp-Posting-Host: squid.cs.ucla.edu Archive-Number: 3277 Yes, this has been discussed recently.. Precum definitely does have the aids virus in it and it's been considered here (in this country and in this newgroup) to be definitely unsafe. Just how unsafe I don't know (that is, I have no idea what the likelihood is of contracting aids from the precum of oral sex). gerri@watson.ibm.com ****** The following is a COPY ***************************** Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 05:04:19 pdt Reply-To: "Sci.Med.AIDS Newsgroup" Sender: "Sci.Med.AIDS Newsgroup" From: "Support Account for SCI.MED.AIDS" Subject: (3273) AIDS in precum? To: Multiple recipients of list AIDS >From: autodesk!robertj@uunet.UU.NET (Young Rob Jellinghaus) Newsgroups: sci.med.aids Approved: phil@wubios.wustl.edu Subject: AIDS in precum? Sender: autodesk!news@uunet.UU.NET Date: 21 Jun 91 03:02:23 GMT Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA Note: Copyright 1990 by Daniel R. Greening. Permission granted for Note: non-commercial reproduction. Archive-number: 3273 Sorry if this has been discussed recently, but I remember seeing in alt.sex or some other bastion of factual information that European AIDS counselors are giving out the advice that oral sex on a man is safe, as long as you don't swallow the ejaculate. The quote I remember is something like "sweat and precum are the only two bodily fluids that have been determined to be virus-free." Apparently this knowledge is widespread in Europe but not yet in America. I mentioned this rumor to a counselor at the clinic where I got STD tested today, and she said she'd never heard anything like that, and all the AIDS updates she attended were still saying that oral sex on men is very definitely unsafe. Anyone here got the straight dope either way? -- Rob Jellinghaus | "Next time you see a lie being spread or Autodesk, Inc. | a bad decision being made out of sheer robertj@Autodesk.COM | ignorance, pause, and think of hypertext." {decwrl,uunet}!autodesk!robertj | -- K. Eric Drexler, _Engines of Creation_ <^>v Via SCI.MED.AIDS => AIDSNEWS gateway / aids@cs.ucla.edu