Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: bxr307@csc1.anu.edu.au Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Secondary Armament Message-ID: <1991Jun20.020633.1450@cbnews.cb.att.com> Date: 20 Jun 91 02:06:33 GMT References: <1991Jun14.080001.19997@amd.com>, <1991Jun19.011717.13143@cbnews.cb.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.cb.att.com (william.a.thacker) Organization: Computer Services, Australian National University Lines: 26 Approved: military@att.att.com From: bxr307@csc1.anu.edu.au In article <1991Jun19.011717.13143@cbnews.cb.att.com>, ab3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Allan Bourdius) writes: > > The loader's and coaxial MG's on the M1 series are M240 7.62mm of > Belgian design and manufacture. (They are pretty much scaled up > versions of the M249 SAW) Err, methinks you have that the other way around. The US M240 is in fact the FN-MAG58 GPMG. It was adopted after the M60e3 was proven to be such a dog. In trials the US Army found that the FN-MAG58 was _so_ reliable that the only way they could get a stoppage was to pour sand into it, whereas the M60 suffered a meantime between stoppages of only some 5-7,000 rounds. They also found the M60 tended to fall to pieces after about 70-100,000 rounds whereas the FN-MAG58 only had some cracking evident in the reciever. The M249 is a slightly modified version of the FN-Minimi LMG and that is in turn basically a scaled down FN-MAG58. -- Brian Ross "If we got it so wrong in the Middle East yesterday, what makes you think we are going to get it right this time?" Arthur Schlesinger