Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: Fredriksson_Urban_NOK@kista.relay.nokia.fi Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Use of SHOVEL as weapon taught? Message-ID: <1991Jun25.024419.27437@cbnews.cb.att.com> Date: 25 Jun 91 02:44:19 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.cb.att.com (william.a.thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 27 Approved: military@att.att.com From: Fredriksson_Urban_NOK@kista.relay.nokia.fi In a cutlery magazine, in an article on swords, the author discusses the ability to use 'anything handy', and mentions an occasion in the 1950's when someone successfully used a shovel against multiple opponents. He then goes on to say: "Certainly the use of a shovel as a formal weapon wasn't (and isn't) taught during Advanced Infantry Training". I assume he is talking about conditions in the USA. That statement surprised me, since at least here in Sweden the shovel has a reputation of beeing a most effective weapon in close quarters. I've always had the impression that the use of a shovel in hand-to-hand combat has been a part of such a training program. Now I'm curious: What about other countries? [mod.note: I can't say that it was taught, but I've read numerous accounts of German troops fighting with their entrenching tools during WWII. Sometimes, one edge of the blade was sharpened for this purpose. - Bill ] -- Urban Fredriksson, Stockholm, Sweden (who ONLY speaks for himself!) urban@kista.relay.nokia.fi "A weapon is a device for making your enemy change his mind."