Xref: utzoo sci.space:31909 sci.skeptic:11987 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!stanford.edu!eos!aio!ecfa!matthews From: matthews@ecfa.jesnet.jsc.nasa.gov (Michael C. Matthews) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.skeptic Subject: Re: anti-gravity? Message-ID: <1991Jun19.015500.15580@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Date: 19 Jun 91 01:55:00 GMT References: <1991Jun18.004625.156@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil> <1991Jun18.225759.23654@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (USENET News System) Reply-To: matthews@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA/JSC Engineering Computation Facility Lines: 37 In article <1991Jun18.225759.23654@news.media.mit.edu> minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes: >In article <1991Jun18.004625.156@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil> bkottmann@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil (Brett Kottmann) writes: >> >> A researcher in Scotland has developed a device that harnesses >>gyroscopic energy to lift a device against gravity--antigravity... >> >> In demonstrations, the apparatus lifts against gravity (it is balanced >>beforehand with an equal weight via balance arm). > >Well, this is good for a contest. Balances are easy because one can >make the required lift arbitrarily small. So you can use > > a surreptitious airflow > how 'bout running current through an electromagnet fied along the >balance arm. this will produce torque in the earth's field. (Called >a "dipping needle". > simply putting a few KV of DC between the hardware and the balance >is almot sure to deflect the beam one way or the other, unless the >environment is symmetrical. ...and don't forget my favorite trick (frequency-domain control system engineer that I am): Weight your flywheel so that it is off-balance, and then spin it at the appropriate rate to shake the balance at one of its resonant frequencies-- hysteresis in the balance will cause it to show a constant deflection of some value that depends on how hard you can shake it. Never trust any mechanical force-measuring device with rotating machinery. -- DISCLAIMER: I frequently don't know what I'm talking about. -- Mike Matthews | matthews%ecfa@jesnic.jsc.nasa.gov Tethered Vehicle Analysis Group | (backup) --> matthews@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov Advanced Projects Section; Navigation, Control, and Aeronautics Department Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company, Houston, Texas, (713) 333-7079