Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: ben@cs.warwick.ac.UK (Ben Dessau) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Man's Responsibility Message-ID: <1991Jun21.094212.15031@cs.warwick.ac.uk> Date: 21 Jun 91 16:30:47 GMT References: <1991Jun13.155237.12650@aero.org> <1991Jun14.131823.10859@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <78595@brunix.UUCP> Organization: Computer Science, Warwick University, UK Lines: 28 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu uunet!infmx!robert@ncar.ucar.EDU (robert coleman) writes: > And then you blow it. Why? If the woman has the choice >whether to create a child from some fuzzy raw material, why shouldn't >she be responsible for that choice? > Not even women? Abortions can and have been used as a method >of birth control, you know, a method of having purely recreation >sexual intercourse without assuming the responsibility for the >consequences. Or did you really men "No men" when you said "Nobody"? You make it sound as if the woman's choice was as simple as deciding what to have for lunch. Deciding to have an abortion is very traumatic, (especially with LIFE-ers calling you a murderer). Giving up a baby for adoption is very traumatic. A lot of women don't want to work full time (so that they can support the baby to a reasonable standard) and have their baby in a chreche/childminder etc. In your scheme the man has the choice of: A financial burden vs no financial burden. The woman has the choice of: Financial burden vs Major trauma. Not a fair choice. -Ben -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: "What do you say to people who | Ben Dessau cs/res/ben Postgrad accuse you of blatant electioneering?" | ben@cs.warwick.ac.uk A: "VOTE FOR ME!!!" | +44 203 523523 ex 2368