Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: goguenm@brahms.udel.edu (Matthew L Goguen) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Standing back to observe Message-ID: Date: 23 Jun 91 04:20:37 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 46 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu No one person except Christ was perfect. We all have to watch our selves and pray for guidance before proceeding. Paul wrote about meat and strong and weak christians. Maybe some of the little things or big things in our respective doctrines don't really matter, maybe they do. My backround has been Independant Baptist from New England. I have started working with a group called IVCF at good old U. of D.. This has helped me to find my excess baggage and trim it off. This net also helped as well. There are issues to die for but there are others that really don't matter one little bit. Predestination could be an example of something better let lie. Murder and Robbery is another to possibley die for. The one I can prove, the other is just an annoying brain teaser for Satan's seeds of doubt. I think all believers agree that there is one supream God to worship. What we need to do now is to test our respective scripture and see if we are following the spirit or the letter or even worse than the letter, a false prophet/teacher/leader. Judge each other by our works, for we cannot see the heart accuratly. We can say if an action was right or wrong but we cannot judge its motives. Central power scares me due to the fact that humans are corrupt creations of God. (By corrupt I mean we are not perfect.) I have watched too many once "great" leaders lead thousands to hell. I am weary and I need rest as well there fore I will give it to God now and let you digest these words. May God grant you wisdom and peace. Wisdom to find the Gold and burn the hay, and peace to know who he is and what he is about. Matthew. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Matthew L. Goguen // Choose this day whom ye // // ELEG(SOPH) // will serve as for me and // // goguenm@chopin.udel.edu // my house we will serve // // goguenm@brahms.udel.edu // the LORD. Joshua 24:15 // ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// [As you may recall, we just had a conversation about IVCF, among other groups. I have some information to add, which is relevant to the previous conversation, although not directly to this one. As it happens, last Tues. the Presbytery of New Brunswick (to which I am a commissioner) was asked to receive into membership a Presbyterian pastor who is acting as a leader for the IVCF graduate group at Princeton. I collared him after the meeting and asked him about the Intervarsity stand on the authority of scripture. He told me that although many people claim that Intervarsity is fundamentalist, their actual policy on Scripture is essentially the same as the Presbyterian Church (USA). They require officers to believe that the Bible is unique and authoritative, but they specifically avoided using the word inerrant because it was too narrow. --clh]