Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: math1h3@JANE.UH.EDU (David H. Wagner) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Core of the Bible (was Re: Calendar Time) Message-ID: Date: 25 Jun 91 06:40:40 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Houston Lines: 26 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , mls@sfsup.att.com (Mike Siemon) writes: >For in the SAME letter from which I took this, Paul *himself* writes a >creation story DIFFERENT from that in Genesis -- there is NO single man, >Adam in that story, but all men "have refused to honor him as God, or to >render him thanks." That is an interesting thesis, but it doesn't wash. Romans 1:21-23 speaks of all unbelievers, not just the first humans. Adam and Eve, though they had fallen, still glorified God, for when Cain was born, Eve said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man." In Lutheran churches we teach that Eve mistook Cain for the savior promised in Gen 3:15, the savior who would crusch the serpent's (Satan's) head. And when Seth was born, Eve said, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him." Some (particularly the Jehovah's Witnesses) teach that Adam and Eve are condemned to hell, but I think they had faith in the Savior to come, and are saved. David H. Wagner a confessional Lutheran. My opinions and beliefs on this matter are disclaimed by The University of Houston.