Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!ptimtc!nntp-server.caltech.edu!mustang!data.nas.nasa.gov!news From: cak0l@larch.cs.Virginia.EDU (cak0l) Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern Subject: Re: Seven Stages of Life - Da Avabhasa Message-ID: <1991Jun22.112746.10193@nas.nasa.gov> Date: 22 Jun 91 11:27:46 GMT References: <1991Jun21.063840.2827@nas.nasa.gov> <1991Jun21.220008.29472@nas.nasa.gov> Sender: news@nas.nasa.gov Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department Lines: 35 Approved: prabhu@amelia.nas.nasa.gov In article <1991Jun21.220008.29472@nas.nasa.gov> skumar@smdvx1.intel.com (Sitanshu Kumar) writes (one '>' section at end): >> >>Have you tried? I suggest that you are not more capable of forgetting about >>money, food and sex than forgetting about anything else. It is one thing to >>affirm "the Self is the only Reality", you can turn it in your mind till the >>end of time and it will never become true Realization. The spiritual process >>is something else totally. It is an ordeal that will break your heart, your >>mind and your ego. It is not something that an ego can do by itself. > >Mr. Da is so completely dualistic to be totally blind. All spiritual >processes are part of the ego, and can only lead to continuation of such. >especially if it is an ordeal. You can break your heart, but that which >is broken will be reconstructed. Insight is differnt, but Mr. Da does >not seem to have any inkling about it.(at least not in these postings) > >S. Kumar hmmm... let us all take our insight where we find it, yes? all discourse is based in the nature of dualities, because words represent objects whose existence is not separate from the knower perceiving them, from the non-dual point of view. therefore, all talk is necessarily imprecise. one cannot necessarily judge the 'level of insight' of another from his words, and almost certainly has the capability to misunderstand another's words if one does not possess at least the insight of the speaker. personally, i welcome the information that da free john has presented in these articles (that yee has posted), and find them not only to be insightful but to have the characteristics of allowing me to step outside of my mundane mental states for a while. surely one who can do this to me is insightful. Christopher Koeritz (cak0l@Virginia.EDU) -------------- hmmm.... ---------- hmmm.... --------------- To conquer oneself is a greater task than conquering others. -- Shakyamuni Buddha