Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!mjbtn!raider!brainiac!dagmar From: dagmar@brainiac.raidernet.com (Greble Dagmar) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Antipode of 'boostrapping', cogitos, etc. Message-ID: Date: 24 Jun 91 05:36:05 GMT References: <15616@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Organization: Phillip's Philosophy Shop, Nashville TN Lines: 24 silber@orfeo.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Silber) writes: > Regarding various: 'bootstrapping'-problems, cogitos, > and 'symbol-grounding' issues, it occurs to me to wonder > about the other end of the temporal spectrum for a > 'conscious' agent, viz. its 'death'. 'Mind', > a construct of the brain, coming to an end in humans > or in other conscious assemblages, poses a sort of > inverse realization-of-consciousness problem. Hmmm... I would surmise then that we could define life (thinking) as realization_of_conciousness, and death as lacking such... That transition is the nasty point that keeps up from shouting with manic glee: 'IT'S ALIVE!!!' I have been puzzling over this for four days running now, and I'm beginning to wonder if there's a hardware limitation in the brain, discarding that, does anyone know of a philosophy book that deals with the attempt to define realization (and specifically that)? I don't think looking at the problem front-backwards is going to help much here. Maybe a six-pack will be of more use? -- _-----_ ------------------------------------------------------------------- = \:/ = Save Mother Earth or Die! : Greble Dagmar... Occult Theologian =_ : _= (This is not a joke.) :...!uunet!mjbtn!raider!brainiac!dagmar -- ----- -------------------------------------------------------------------