Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!unogate!unocal!genisco!arcturus!berry From: berry@arcturus.uucp (Berry;Craig D.) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: If it does not pass TT it is not intelligent???? Keywords: TT, intelligence Message-ID: <1991Jun28.010926.17791@arcturus.uucp> Date: 28 Jun 91 01:09:26 GMT References: <1991Jun17.064232.2536@panix.uucp> <1991Jun19.111622.5491@tygra.Michigan.COM> <2213@ccsg.tau.ac.il> Organization: Rockwell International Lines: 36 yonadav@VIRGO.MATH.TAU.AC.IL (Perry Yonadav) writes: >In article <1991Jun19.111622.5491@tygra.Michigan.COM> dave@tygra.Michigan.COM (David Conrad) writes: >>The Turing Test does not test for intelligence. At a literal level it tests >>for a specific ability, the ability to mimic human answers to questions, >>which we may hope requires at least some kind of 'intelligence'. >> >But wouldn't it be logical to define 'intelligence' as human-like behavior? But what aspect of human-like behavior? Examples: (1) Gets sick when exposed to certain microorganisms. [A clearly irrelevant behavior for AI, but still very characteristically human behavior.] (2) Twitches limbs (manipulators?) when struck in certain spots with a rubber hammer. [Grey area -- how important is body awareness and reflex loops to what we think of as "intelligence"?] (3) Avoids situations which might lead to injury, seeks food and shelter (or equivalents). [Probably necessary for anything we would like to think of as "intelligent".] (4) Gets sad watching tragic play. [Emotional response and empathy may or may not be critical to intelligence in general.] (5) Debates philosophy. [Clearly requires only reflexive behavior :-)] (6) Plays world-class chess. [Once thought a hallmark of intelligence, now known to be a "simple" matter of combining fast hardware and cleverly designed algorithms.] Where do you draw the line when deciding if a purported AI is "human-like" and therefore intelligent by your definition?