Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!maytag!xenitec!wynnds.xenitec.on.ca!timk From: timk@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca (Tim Kuehn) Subject: Re: copyright status and future development of comp.archives Organization: TDK Consulting Services Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1991 01:17:54 GMT Message-ID: <1991Jun27.011754.2219@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca> References: <1991Jun26.190247.24577@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> In article <1991Jun26.190247.24577@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> vk@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (vivek.kalra) writes: >From article , >by emv@msen.com (Ed Vielmetti): >> OZ.91Jun25014110@ursa.ccs.yorku.ca >> oz@ursa.ccs.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit) writes: >> >> Now, there is no need to bother even in the US, as per >> Geneva convention, all articles are implicitly copyright by their >> authors. I think the implications of this for any "derivative >> works" such as the article contents of comp.archives is reasonably >> clear. >> >> >> I don't think it's clear at all, and I resent your implications that >> comp.archives is just a rebroadcasting service. I add a significant >> amount of value, not only in the selection and presentation of the >> materials, but also in the verification and categorization of articles >> as they come out. ... >But isn't that what happens in *every* moderated news group? If not, just >how is it different? And if it does, why aren't all the other moderators >doing, or at least talking about doing, what you propose? >Vivek Kalra vk@honasa.att.com Most other moderators receive submissions to a news group, and decide whether it's appropriate and/or relevent to the operation of the newsgroup. They basically decides if the article is worth posting or not, and if not, reject the article and notify the submitter, with comments why it was rejected or what could be done to make the submission postable to the group. What Ed is doing in comp.archives is not recieving submissions "Please post this to comp.archives" but rather actively scanning MB of text daily to find announcements of archives sites and it's programs, then going out and verifying that 'yes - it's there', along with other relevent information, and THEN posting it to comp.archives for the rest of us to see. So, in a sense, he's the one that's doing most of the work in keeping c.a going, not to mention adding a significant level of value by culling non- relevent announcements, and tagging the announcements with information about the archive for everybody else to see. This is not only a non- trivial effort, but it is what makes c.a different from other moderated newsgroups, which the first poster seems to be missing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tim Kuehn TDK Consulting Services (519)-888-0766 timk@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca -or- !{watmath|lsuc}!xenitec!wynnds!timk Valpo EE turned loose on unsuspecting world! News at 11! "You take it seriously when someone from a ballistics research lab calls you." Heard at a Unix user's meeting discussing connectivity issues.