Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!telecom-request From: zaphod@madnix.uucp (Ron Bean) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Whatever Happened to Rich Andrews? Message-ID: Date: 21 Jun 91 11:38:22 GMT Sender: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 37 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 491, Message 1 of 8 Well, now I've heard updates on Craig Niedorf, Steve Jackson Games, and Len Rose. Has anyone heard from Rich Andrews? Did he ever get his 3B2 back? If so, was it in working condition? If not, who has it and why? Did David Tamkin get to read his email, and is anyone following up on that thread? Also, similar questions regarding any others who had equipment siezed but weren't charged with anything? >The EFF: I think they *mean well*, a lot like the ACLU. But they fail >to realize the huge number of freeloaders going along for the ride, ^^^^^^^^^^^ >for whom social responsibility in computing is a big laugh. On the contrary, I'm sure they're well aware of it. They just don't think it justifies abandoning their goals. It's no different from people in the law enforcement community who don't mind harrassing innocent citizens who "fit the profile", and occasionally sending them to jail by mistake. BTW, how do you know it's a "huge number", and not a vociferous few? zaphod@madnix.UUCP (Ron Bean) {harvard|rutgers|ucbvax}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!zaphod [Moderator's Note: The way it has been told to me, Rich Andrews cooperated completely with the government from the beginning ... maybe even from *before* the beginning, if you get my drift. When I talked to him just after the Phrack/911 story came out, he did not seem too terribly concerned about the 'raid' on his home, the welfare of his equipment, etc. He did say to me in a phone call back then 'there was a lot he was not permitted to say at the time ...' nor has he said anything since. Perhaps he would like to respond publicly now; or perhaps Mssrs. Godwin and Jim Thomas have some background they'll share with the Digest. PAT]