Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!email!vmars!hp From: hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: HELP, WE'RE DROWNING!! Message-ID: <1991Jun26.080734.15059@email.tuwien.ac.at> Date: 26 Jun 91 08:07:34 GMT References: <1991Jun22.154152.29478@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> <1991Jun24.163819.3125@email.tuwien.ac.at> <1991Jun25.073955.29138@kithrup.COM> Sender: news@email.tuwien.ac.at Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA Lines: 34 Nntp-Posting-Host: gipsy.vmars.tuwien.ac.at sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) writes: >In article <1991Jun24.163819.3125@email.tuwien.ac.at> hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer) writes: >>When I have have to work on an ASCII-Terminal, I see many >>advantages. E.g. source code and compiler error messages are >>simultaneously visible. If I have an X-terminal, still one advantage >>remains. The debugger. Turbo-Debugger is the best debugger I have ever >>seen. Dbx isn't more powerful, and not nearly as comfortable. >I would suggest you try emacs, gcc, and gdb. EMACS: This is mostly a religious question, but I hate programs that are much larger than (I think) they need to be. If I see a file named emacs.tar.Z which is 12MB large my fingers are already hunting for the 'r' and the 'm' :-). I have played around a little with emacs and I didn't like it very much. If I had to use it I would rebind all the keys to emulate vi, but I would still miss regular expressions (or does emacs use them and the help-file didn't mention them?). What I would really like is vi (yes I like dual-moded editors) with multiple buffers and files, command-line history, and a sane macro-language (Any one got a REXX-Interpreter? :-). GCC: I am using it all the time. GDB: If you know of a port of gdb to the DECstation, I would be glad to hear of it. I know that Michael Meissner put a "lot of ugly hacks" (his words, not mine) into gcc to make it produce Ultrix-dbx compatible debugging info, I don't know if he ever tried to port gdb. There wasn't a gdb version for DECstations last time I looked. -- | _ | Peter J. Holzer | Think of it | | |_|_) | Technical University Vienna | as evolution | | | | | Dept. for Real-Time Systems | in action! | | __/ | hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at | Tony Rand |