Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!ucla-cs!maui.cs.ucla.edu!gast From: gast@maui.cs.ucla.edu (David Gast) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: How secure should computers be? Message-ID: <1991Jun29.022104.13485@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 29 Jun 91 02:21:04 GMT References: Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News Himself) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 15 Nntp-Posting-Host: maui.cs.ucla.edu In article cschmidt@lynx.northeastern.edu writes: >> Well, back in pre-UNIX days, computers _were_ secure, and serious >> programmers (the kind of people who hang out here) didn't like it. >> You couldn't see any files other than your own... you couldn't run >> a process in the background... and so on. >> I'm amused that the same kind of people who hated secure operating >> systems when they had them, now claim operating systems should be >> more secure. These other operating systems weren't secure either. There were all sorts of bugs and problems with them. Same with all operating systems today. David