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From: allen@sulaco.Lonestar.ORG (Allen Gwinn)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Was Bill Kennedy Really Out Of Line?
Message-ID: <1991Jun30.212017.12012@sulaco.Lonestar.ORG>
Date: 30 Jun 91 21:20:17 GMT
References: <1991Jun26.132906.3116@sulaco.Lonestar.ORG> <1991Jun27.134611.16787@midway.uchicago.edu>
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In article <1991Jun27.134611.16787@midway.uchicago.edu> learn@piroska.uchicago.edu (William  Vajk (igloo)) writes:

Thanks, Bill, for posting the timetable.

>I heard a rumor I'd like verified or discredited. It has to do with 
>Charlie being fired by AT&T over these incidents, and rehired at union
>insistence. 

Charlie was never fired... there is so much to this story that I would 
like to tell, but am not able to for various reasons.  There is a chance 
that all of these reasons will disappear shortly, and at that time, I
might be able to be "a little less vague".

>No matter what Charlie told you at the time, it is now obvious that AT&T had 
>no heart in the business of keeping a public access system and usenet hub 
>alive and thriving at corporate expense. 

Matter of fact, they did.  The regional V.P. was the one that moved it to
a more "official" home and sanctioned it (and changed the name to attctc).

>There were also some rumors about
>AT&T security folks diddling the data (let's call it evidence) when killer
>was taken down. 

This is not true to my knowledge.  

>I hope that you, Allen, and Bill Kennedy, are aware that
>the same department at AT&T has been doing the computer related data
>retrieval and interpretations on behalf of the US Government in a number
>of cases. 

That is correct, and I would hope that you or someone would approach Mike
Godwin with the details of this, and ask his opinion.

-- 
Allen Gwinn (allen@sulaco.lonestar.org)
"If SCO would like to use this server in one of their products they have to
 pay $100 for every copy they redistribute, cause I don't like this company
 and their braindamaged products." - Thomas Roell on The Santa Cruz Operation