Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!visix!news From: amanda@visix.com (Amanda Walker) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix Subject: Re: Why not pick *nice* places for the Usenix conventions? Message-ID: <1991Jun30.210341.28962@visix.com> Date: 30 Jun 91 21:03:41 GMT References: <1991Jun28.123120.20479@crl.dec.com> <1991Jun28.165006.713@oar.net> <1991Jun28.214536.21138@visix.com> <1991Jun29.032355.28483@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Sender: news@visix.com Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA Lines: 38 shore@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Melinda Shore) writes: Maybe, maybe not. I do find it deeply problematic that we will be spending a lot of money in a state that is choosing to deprive women of some fundamental rights. I do, too. However, I also know that other members will feel just as deeply about other issues, or for that matter the same ones in other directions. What I do *not* want is for USENIX to become a forum for issues that are not materially related to the business of the organization, however strongly I may feel about them. I might choose not to go to USENIX in Lousiana. Someone else might choose not to go to a USENIX meeting in New Jersey because of their legislation on gun control. Another person might not go to Georgia because of their sodomy laws. Yet another might not go to California because they don't want to be around "ecofreaks." The list is very long. We all have overriding issues, and we will take them into account. If few people show up for a USENIX conference in Lousiana, it will have political effects, and will probably affect future site selection. However, I think that the issues should be addresses solely by how they affect the functioning of the organization, not "preemptively" by means of explicit political positions held by USENIX itself. If we start down that road, there will soon be no place for us to meet. Unless things in Louisiana start to turn around, I will not participate in any Usenix-sponsored event down there. This, I have no problem with. It's asking USENIX to take an official stand on the matter that I object to. Of course, there's nothing stopping anyone from forming political groups, such as the CPSR, EFF, or FSF. I just don't want to see USENIX become one. -- Amanda Walker amanda@visix.com Visix Software Inc. ...!uunet!visix!amanda -- X Windows: It could be worse, but it'll take time...