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From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu (Bruce Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Problems with Apple Internet Router
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Date: 27 Jun 91 15:01:59 GMT
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Greetings,

I couldn't get our mailer to go to either of the addresses listed in the
original post, so here are my comments.

In your posting you write:

>Is it possible to use telnet and ftp through  Apple's Appletalk Internet
>router?
>be able to use either telnet or ftp on a network with Apple's Internet router
>acting as a bridge. We have a thin ethernet spine onto which is attached a
>GatorBox running v1.6 of the Gatorshare software. Our Appletalk routing
through
>this GatorBox is set to Appletalk phase 2. Attached to  this GatorBox we had a
>large mac network of over 25 devices which we decided to split because it was
>too large. The option we took was to use Apple's Internet router running on a
>non-dedicated Mac IIci to break the 2 appletalk networks and act as a bridge.
>
>So now we have 2 zones on the appletalk side of the GatorBox. The intermediate

>zone - i.e. the one in between the GatorBox and Apple's Internet Router - is 
>fine and all facilities are available. However on the other side of the
Internet
>Router from the GatorBox while all devices on the network are visible and 
>Appleshare file serving all works fine - we can neither use NCSA Telnet or the

>VersaTerm Pro telnet tool to telnet to our mainframes via Appletalk. On 
>attempting to telnet the response is that the connection was not able to be 
>made - the local host or gateway was not responding. Can anyone help?

We are doing this now with what sounds like the exact same configuration.  You
have to set the GatorBox and MacTCP for server allocation of IP addresses.  It
does not and will not work with static IP addresses across the Apple Internet
Router.  The zone that is directly attached to the GatorBox will work, of
course, with either option.  For example, in my configuration, I have 12 static
addresses and 20 dynamic addresses allocated.  The 12 static addresses are
assigned to devices in the zone directly attached to the GatorBox.  The 20
dynamics are shared between the two other zones that are connected by Apple
Internet Routers.  If you have a device in the bridged zone that requires a
static IP address, then you are, in technical terms, screwed.  You'll have to
move the device over to the directly connected zone.
                                     <->
Bruce Carter, Courseware Development Coordinator      bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725              duscarte@idbsu.bitnet
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