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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  The 68050 - end of the 680x0? (was Re: The Amiga's Future)
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Date: 25 Jun 91 18:25:01 GMT
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awessels@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels) writes:
>In article <5171@orbit.cts.com> chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
>
>>year later, still a 16 Mhz machine) then FINALLY comes the IIci which is 25
>>Mhz, the speed at which their machines SHOULD have been clocked for to begin
>>with).  then comes the IIfx which uses a 50 Mhz 030 chip clocked at 40 Mhz(!)
>
>Really?  Were those 25Mhz chips being produced in the quantities Apple would
>need?

Yes, Motorola has been producing 25 Mhz 030's in great quanitites for years..
I believe that about the time the IIcx came out There were 25 Mhz NeXT's,
25Mhz Amiga's etc.. Apples sales of the IIcx at the time they created it
weren't increadible either.  it became a better seller later on.  

>
>>designed, and when sales slack, they pump up the power.  (forcing you to
>>continually upgrade if you want the best performance).  is it any wonder why i
>>believe the first 040 mac will be 16 Mhz?  
>
>Hmm, sound like that same argument could be applied to the Amiga.  3rd 
>parties almost always have a faster processor available for a given machine.

But Commodore's Machines are clocked at the Maximum rating for their Chips. 
you didn't explain why the IIfx is only clocked at 40 Mhz, when the chip is
rated at 50 Mhz.  CBM releases what's the best at the time.  I'm sure they
could have released a 50Mhz 3000, but what's the point?  when the 040 was
right around the corner, they chose to reduce costs by using a cheaper chip. 
the IIfx uses that expensive chip but doesn't do it justice.

>
>It isn't any wonder to me that you think the first Apple-produced 040 Mac would
>be a 16Mhz machine.  If I didn't know anything about a machine or the company
>that produced it, or the business realities of the situation, I could imagine
>all sorts of absurd things as well.

So enlighten me.


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