Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!m.cs.uiuc.edu!vela!sycom!rkushner From: rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Who cares if its made in USA? Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 91 06:06:46 GMT References: <1991Jun24.233106.5282@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1991Jun25.170536.9870@Sugar.NeoSoft.com> <1991Jun26.030155.7989@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Organization: Michigan Information eXchange Lines: 62 sss10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gun Control is a firm grip) writes: >In article rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) wri > >>>> Didnt sell well in the US at all, were very unreliable according to CU. >>> >>>CU's ratings are heavily weighted towards bottom-of-the-line cars. >> >>Consumers Reports HATES ALL cars, and I wouldn't look at anything they >>published...One of the big-wigs at CU's car program was fired from Chrysler >>for being a "screw-off"...And knowing how many Screw-Off's Chrysler still has >>working for them, he must have been the screw-off of all screw-offs to get >>fired...I would believe what CU prints about VCR's, Toasters, Televisions, >>etc, but not cars... >> >>I would pick up a car magazine for a more objective view, or ConsumerGuide's >>auto series... > >Objective? Car & driver? Road & Track? in their top 10 cars, you will almost >always see 5 hondas picked over toyota cars that are as good if not better. >COnsidering they accept advertising from all the auto companies, I'd be wary o >most advice about cars they provide. Well, true, they do take advertising, but how about Popular Science? Or ConsumersGuide like I suggested...Plus in Road & Track, you will see $30,000++ cars in the top 10....Its kinda dumb, seeing how many more $10,000 Chevys are sold over the $30,000 300ZPX's... >Incidentally so far as I could tell from my limited experience, people* who >bought cars recommended by CU had far fewer problems than friends who bought >cars they didnt recommend. What about when they flip/flop? Like I have an 1990 Dodge Dyantsy and it was recommended as a "best buy." It was allmost unchanged for 1991 and then they said to avoid it like the plague...Still haven't had any problems with it, actually its the first car I ever had that *I NEVER* found anything wrong with it where it had to go back to the dealer. They had a recall for a by-pass valve on the four speed transmission, but thats it... They seemed to keep saying the transmissions had a 14% failure rate according to 1989 data, but using 1989 data on a 1991 car seems very silly...Just like compairing a WorkBench 1.0 (where when you dragged an ICON you got a giant red X representing the icon on the screen and it crashed every 3 hours) to Mac System 7..Plus when Consumers Reports asks users to report problems with their cars, owners of American built cars are older and seem to nitpick much more than the younger people who buy Japanese cars, so they get more black spots... Whats funny, is that my friend did a study on the Diamond Star cars, and the people who bought the Mitsubishi Eclipse rated the car *MUCH* higher than the people who bought the Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser...Same damn cars, same powertrain options, etc...You could compair any model down the page, and the ones sold as American cars "sucked" and the ones sold as Japanese cars were "excellent." And the Eagle Talon was one of the 10 best cars for R&T.. What a minute, thats not funny, its sad!! People are mindless brainwashed zombies!! -- C-UseNet V0.42e Ronald Kushner Life in Hell BBS +1 (313) 939-6666 P.O. Box 353 14400 USR HST V.42 & V.42bis Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0353 Complete Amiga Support UUCP: uunet!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner (We are not satanic, just NUTS!) It works better if you plug it in.